Powermatic III+

Good machine...I have made over 30,000 smokes. The warranty was for 25k....still going strong..works as good as day1.

I've had one of these for 3 years now and am very happy with it. After three years and about 30k rolled it still works as it did when new. The current model has been updated is quieter and seems like it will work even better than the older model I have. So far 3 other family members have bought one of these and they are all very happy with the machine. It is a bit more costly than many of the other rolling machines available but is worth every penny. It is faster and easier to roll cigarettes with this machine than any of the others I have tried. One of the big advantages of this machine is that you do not have to guess at how much tobacco you place in for each cigarette. You just load the hopper close the lid then you place a tube on the machine and press the button. It has 3 settings for rolling density. I roll 100s so I use the highest setting for kings I use the middle setting. I did have a cheaper machine at first but with those even the ones with a hopper you still have to put the tobacco into the slot with your fingers and basically guess and the amount which goes in for each cigarette resulting in some being to tight and others being to loose especially when you first start. This machine removes the guess work so you can start rolling good smokes with little to no trial and error.

I never knew that doing something so mondain would be therapeutic? I ordered this 2 days ago and it arrived today. I went to the store and bought some tobacco and tubes, took the machine out of the box, plugged it in and flipped on the power switch and I was in business. After I ordered it I watched the videos on YouTube and learned how to operate it as the instructions are a little vague. I was ready to go. I rolled 250 cigs in ~40 min. That included a cigarette break to test them out. They are GREAT and the flavors you can come up with just by mixing different blends from mild to bold and maybe a little menthol? You'll come up with the perfect recipe and enjoy smoking the perfect cigarette tailored to your liking. Get yourself a baking sheet to work on to keep the tobacco all in one place. Let the tobacco air dry for a few minutes by spreading it out evenly across the baking sheet while you are rolling. This helps prevent jams in the hopper. I didn't have a single jam but if you stuff the hopper with wetter tobacco the experts say it will jam. Spreading it out allows the fine pieces to fall to the bottom of the pile. This finer "shake" should be discarded as it can jam the hopper. It will make your cigs more harsh and less smooth. This machine will pay for itself in 1 month or less depending on how much you smoke. If you live in NY or IL this is a MUST! The tobacco costs ~ $16/pound and 1 pound makes > 200 cigs which is more than two cartons. Now that's if you purchase online but there's a catch you have to pay the shipping that starts out at $22 and goes up to $120. Ridiculous. Buying it at a tobacco supply store costs ~$20/lb. So you just pay a little more online than at the store. The cigarette tubes are $4/box of 250. After paying for the machine the cost per pack is ~$1. Here's an important tip. Get the 100s cigarette tubes due to these cigarettes burning a little faster. The tighter the pack the slower the burn. You can adjust the packing tightness on the machine. Another reason to get the 100s is that the tip of the cigarette doesn't get filled so you lose 1/8 in. Kings will burn too quickly. Another thing I noticed is the nicotine content in the loose tobaccos is higher. This will save me a fortune and many trips to the circle K where they are ALWAYS out of the cheaper brands. That's actually what drove me to investigate rolling my own. So glad I did! I'm wondering how long it will take for them to tax the machine, tubes and pipe tobacco? If they do I'll learn how to cultivate tobacco at home. UPDATE! If you are a smoker you MUST buy this machine and NOT be intimidated. I'm not a salesperson but let me tell you this is a game changer. I'm not here to condone smoking. If you can quit that is the BEST option but for some of us the addiction is now hard wired in our DNA and some people get away with smoking their entire lives without health issues. So far I'm one of the lucky ones. Anyway, I had to keep downgrading my brand due to the rising costs. The cheaper brands the cigarettes are loosely packed with tobacco which causes them to burn quickly. The taste wasn't that great either. After experimenting with this machine I have developed the perfect blend of tobaccos and selected the perfect tubes. What I came up with tastes like a Marlboro red but smoother. It also has a low key menthol taste. The nicotine content is perfect and adjustable by the amount of menthol you add to your blend. When selecting your tobaccos RED - is like a Marlboro red. BLUE - Marlboro Ultra Light. GREEN - Newport. GOLD - Camel Light/Turkish blend. Tubes are all flavored and filter at different degrees. You have to select the correct tubes. I use RED 100 tubes with 1/3 green and 2/3 red tobacco. I roll a full carton in about 30 minutes and it's fun to do with the music going and a few cigarette breaks in between. The best setting of compaction is the lowest setting on the machine. I save the empty tube boxes to store the packed cigarettes in and store the boxes in the freezer. The freezer will keep them fresh for a year preventing them from drying out and becoming harsh. Above I mentioned to choose 100s because these cigarettes burn quicker. I retract that as the machine started packing the tubes more as it got broken in. These cigarettes burn perfectly and the cherry never falls off like the cheap cigs at the coinvent store. You can certainly do kings and get more out of each bag of tobacco which yields ~ 2 cartons and 2 1/2 packs. Now with kings there's an added step. You have to cut each cigarette at the end to make if flush and cut off the straggling leaves. This adds to the rolling time. Things you'll need: 1: Sturdy baking pan which will hold the machine, tools, tobacco and finished cigarettes. This also makes it easy to move and store the cig factory. 2: Large plastic mixing bowl used to mix the different tobaccos prior to laying out to dry. 3: Heavy duty, sharp scissors for cutting kings at the ends. The better the pair the easier this is. 4: Optional toaster dust cover to cover the machine in-between uses. To start you mix the different kinds of tobacco (tailor your own recipe) in the mixing bowl. Be sure to separate and blend well. Next you lay it out about 1 inch deep in the free space of the baking sheet. You'll probably use half of your mixture. Leave the other half in the bowl. Now let the tobacco dry for about 30 minutes before rolling. Tip from the pros. After the drying period is up load the hopper to the top with dried tobacco and close the lid. You should have about 20 empty tubes on your right and the supply box and empty tube box on your right off of the baking sheet. Grab a tube and place on the packer and push the button. It will pack the cig and start cutting for the next one. During this time you should have another tube ready to put back on the packer. Once the machine is done cutting you hit the start button again and keep repeating until you rolled the whole bunch. Now pick up the cigs and place them in the empty box. As you clear the tobacco off the tray you replace it with more from the mixing bowl and it will dry as you roll. I did 250 top quality cigs in 35 min. including breaks. The tobacco left on the tray that is like fine sand should be discarded as fine tobacco ruins a good cigarette and will eventually jam the machine. When you're done rolling push down the C button and hold until it enters the clean mode. Once in clean mode hit the start button once and then again and it will keep emptying out the cutters until no tobacco remains. Use the included brush to help clean it completely. This must be done after each use. Takes just a few minutes. Another good thing to have is a hand vac to clean up. Remember tobacco has a shelf life of years so you can stock up when the sales come along. It's sold in resealable bags. They also have humidity packs you can put in the bag to keep it perfectly at 68%RH. This machine will pay for itself in a few months depending on how much you smoke and where you live.

Being new to the roll your own game I have tried all the machines there is to offer. I own the old school slide type, a crank type (top o matic), a powermatic2+, and now the powermatic3+. They all respectively have there advantages but the pm3 takes the Cake. The pm3+ makes life way more easier and less time consuming to make your cigs...I mean we're trying to save money on cigs here, not devote every free minute to making cigs. The automated process makes the task so simple a caveman can do it (lol). Just fill the Hopper with your favorite tabacco, select your cig size (King or 100s) slide a empty tube on the nozzle, press the start button and Bam! Ready to smoke cig in about 4 seconds. If you like me, I still like to hand pack them a lill more after the process so I can get close to a perfect cig. But the automatic compression and injecting makes this much more of a enjoyable task over a crank type machine and even the pm2 for that matter. The pm3 is kind of big and bulky compared to the other machines, but fits on my McDonald's tray I use for rolling with room to spare. Clean up is a easy task, and comes with the same cleaning tools as the pm2. The piece counters add a nice touch (lifetime counter and resettable counter) to keep track of how many you have made. I'm not like some of the other reviewers that like to boast about how quickly I can make cigs, but this machine definitely cut processing time in HALF, and I can make let's say 40-60 cigs in about 15 minutes, hand packing each one while watching my favorite movie/show or talking on the phone. Now with that said, some disadvantages... -the pm3+(not the pm3) doesn't have the 5 stage compression setting that I hoped for, which was standard on the non-Plus model (pm3). They now have just 3 selectable sizes King, King mid I guess?, And 100s. After testing all settings (on King tubes) I've found that King setting rolls a lill on the loose side, King mid rolls a lill tighter, and 100s rolls the tightest. This also varies on your tabacco...how dry or moist it is, the cut etc. I tend to switch back and fourth on these settings while making my cigs. -your tabacco choice, and or prep MATTERS! When I read the reviews on this machine I tended to blow off the reviews that said to prep your tabacco before using this machine...they weren't joking. The automatic Hopper is a finiky beast on this machine and if your tabacco is too moist it will throw the Hopper light on about every 4-5 cigs. Same goes for longer cuts, problem is the machine only tempers (packs the tabacco) for a set amount of times, so if it takes longer then what's programed to fill the slot for your set cig size it will turn on the Hopper light. And in my use so far I've found moist and longer cut tabaccos to cause this issue. I use Ohm and The Good stuff for now, and helps to let it dry out a lill in open air for about 10-15 minutes before making cigs. -like other machines, this thing DOES NOT pack the tabacco all the way to the filter. This is something that has bothered me since day one of rolling my own, and obviously I've tried every machine possible. I've just come to realize hand packing after injecting is a must for me...still doesn't quite get it perfectly Everytime but it still makes more consistent enjoyable cigs. I think most people in the RYO community just deals with it and looks more at the cost savings then having your tabacco touch the filter (lol) Well hope this long winded reveiw helps others with there purchase. It's really a great investment when rolling your own, it will pay for it self in no time! For the more budget minded people the pm2 is a great investment as well. But the pm3+ is a must have if your looking for less time invested over cost. **UPDATE 6/19/20** The pm3+ is still going strong! Counter reads 8407 cigs rolled (more than this have been rolled, I'll explain in a sec) and still counting! It has made life so easy with rolling my own cigs, and Ive saved so much money as well. Pm3 payed for it self within the first month. Couple things I want to bring up..... - I've noticed that at probaly month 3 or so the injector started getting louder, kinda like dry parts rubbing each other sound... Almost like it needs grease or extreme interior cleaning. But with no service access I just continue to use it and it hasn't gotten worse. - when rolling, occasionally the Hopper light will come on which is supposed to indicate you need more tabacco...but you open the door and notice you still have half full Hopper?? Even with properly prepared tabacco it still does this, I found that you can shut the door and press the start button again and it will complete the cig but it will be packed way to tight. So another solution is keep the door open and press start and the machine will push out the injector (part of it's cleaning process) and you can complete the cig that way without it being uselessly tight. This way does not show up on the counter though which leads me to believe I'm up to about 9.5-10k cigs rolled instead of the 8400 it actually reads. - as in my initial review I brought up the cig settings and stated I go back and forth on the settings while rolling...I now tend to roll most of my cigs on the "king" setting which keeps them a lill loose but enjoyable, but on occasion it tends to roll too loose in which I switch the setting to "king +" (the middle setting) for a few cigs till it tightens up some and then I switch back to "king" size to complete that Hopper load. The 100's setting rolls way to tight on king tubes...and keep in mind I still hand pack each individual cig. -last but not least, I noticed at about month 4-5 it kinda spits the tube off early depending how packed the tabacco is. I have remedied this by lightly pushing on the filter towards the machine as it injects which helps getting the tabacco further in the tube but also keeps it on the nozzle. That's it for now! I still love this machine, you just have to learn it's quirks to make your desired cig. I love it so much I think I will buy a back up machine in the next month or 2 just to have it if this one decides to fail. Hope my long-winded review helps some people as I know this is not a easy purchase for some. But look at it this way....I was spending roughly $420-500 a month on store bought cigs, I now spend $60-100 a month on tabacco and tubes. It's a no brainier if you ask me.

We've been rolling our own cigarettes since August 2019. We started with a hand crank machine, but it was a pita, so we quickly jumped to the PowerMatic II. We smoke A LOT, which means we have to make a lot of cigarettes. We ended up having to buy 3 PM II's within 1 year. Although hesitant due to the much higher price, in February 2020 we decided to try out the PowerMatic III+. It was clear from the first use, that there was no way we could ever go back to using anything else. At a relaxed pace, we can make about 1 carton per hour using the PM 3+. It took hours just to make a few packs with the PM 2. The PM 3 is far from perfect though, and I'm struggling with even giving it 4 stars. The hopper holds enough tobacco to fill 20-25 100mm tubes. I wish there was a way to attach a bigger hopper to this, like you can with the PM 2( we modified a dog/cat food feeder. It worked beautifully, and held a ton of tobacco.) Pros: It's very fast. The LCD screen is great. Just like your car has a Trip button, and then your overall milage, there's a resettable counter for your current session. Plus a non-resettable counter for the lifetime of the machine. This is one of my favorite features of this machine. It makes 100's, king size, and King plus.. (Whatever that is?) We mostly smoke 100's, but we always make me a pack of king size, every week, just for the times I want a quick smoke. 90% of the 100mm cigarettes are filled good enough that they don't need packed down after being filled. There's rarely a time where there's gaps inside the tubes, which used to happen constantly with the PM 2. Here are the cons: This machine is very finicky about the type of Tobacco you use, and the amount of moisture that is in the Tobacco. If your tobacco is very stringy (we use Good Stuff, which is super stringy, and full of sticks,) you'll have to grind your tobacco or else it will jam constantly. But if you grind it too much, or use a tobacco that contains a lot of 'powder/dust,' you'll have even worse jamming problems. Same with tobacco that is too moist or too dry. Too moist and it jams, too dry and it will crush it to a fine 'powder/dust' and REALLY jam. My husband and I like the PM 3+ so much that we're currently on the hunt for a different tobacco that might work better in this machine. (I'll update if I find a perfect tobacco.) Currently it takes quite a bit of tobacco prepping, which I didn't include in the time it takes to make the cigarettes. I do tobacco prepping in big batches, which takes me a few hours. But if I only did it for the cigarettes I was making at the time, it would probably add about 10-15min per carton. Just like the PowerMatic II, the internal parts of this machine are already filling up with tobacco particles (as seen in my picture.) I suggest that you do not ever turn the machine upside down, or you'll end up with tobacco 'powder/dust' stuck under the screen. The PM 2's broke every few months due to the accumulation of tar and Tobacco 'powder/dust' on the inside of the machine. Without a doubt, the same will happen with the PM 3+. The only question is, how long will it take to finally break the machine? If we can get at least 6 months of of it, it will be well worth it for us. It seems as though The PM 3+ was designed for (or perhaps, by,) a left handed person. Since most people are right handed, you would think that they'd design the machine so that you'd put the tubes on the right side, and then have the button on the left side. It takes me much longer to use my left hand to put the tubes on, so I just turn the whole machine around and use it backwards now. It makes seeing into and filling the hopper much harder, but overall it's faster for me. If or when they make a PowerMatic 4, I hope they take this into consideration. I'm not sure what the little holder on the side is supposed to be for. The tools maybe? It definitely wouldn't be useful for holding tubes or cigarettes, as it's far too small. It's completely useless to us though. If we only smoked king size cigarettes, we'd probably be more annoyed at the fact that there's always a lot of tobacco that sticks out of the ends, when making kings. The 100's are perfect, but it almost seems like it's trying to shove the same amount of tobacco in a king size, as a 100. We don't make very many kings, so it's not a big deal to us. Overall, I would have to recommend this machine over the PowerMatic II. It's probably the best RYO machine on the market, at the moment. Even though the PM 3+ is pretty costly, when you consider the time you're saving, it's definitely worth it. And if you compare it to buying cigarettes at the store, there's no question. Factoring in the cost of having to buy a machine every 6 months, it still only costs us between $10.80- $12.60 per carton, depending on which tubes we're using. That's buying the 5lb bag of Good Stuff Tobacco, and whether we use Golden Harvest tubes, which are the cheapest, or my Berettas, which are the most expensive. We used to spend nearly $80 per carton buying cigarettes.. Once this machine breaks, I'll update my review and let you know how long and how many cigarettes it lasted.

This is my second Powermatic 3 my last one literally died at just over 36000 cigarettes. The replacement my new one I just bought seems much quieter and it has some improvements over my last one. The biggest change I notice is once you prime it and make a cigarette and go to grab the next tube and slide it onto the machine it is literally ready to inject the tobacco, you push the button it injects then completes the cycle and ready's itself for the next cigarette. where the old unit would get ready for the next cigarette after you pushed the button. also it seems to do better with moving around the tobacco around in the hopper. I am glad i did not opt for the machine that also loads the tube since some tobacco will end up sticking out the metal loading tube causing the cigarette tube get crushed into the hanging out tobacco this flaw still exist yet can be managed with the proper cut and correct humidity ( more dry around 50% RH ) tobacco. I do quick grind in my Vitmix food grinder - processor and if needed I let it sit out to dry some before use if humidity is an issue. All in all a great machine

I did a lot of research and read hundreds of reviews be I decided to purchase this cigarette machine and I couldn't be happier. I can easily make a carton of smokes in 50 minutes compared to the TOP manual machine taking 2 1/2 hours. I did have one jam but it was my fault. The tobacco was too fine and i packed the tobacco into the reservoir. It's easy to operate and clean. There are three density setting to choose from. I smoke Kentucky Select tobacco and use the lowest density setting.The cigarettes are perfect. There is also a clean function I use to remove any any left over tobacco when I finish and I use the supplied to to make sure it clean. This machine is in my opinion excellent quality, not too loud and well worth the money I paid for it.

Long story short, I dove head first into RYO cigarettes. The cost of buying packs is just out of control. SO, Im lazy, and I don't want to hand crank anything. This checks that box! I literally do not know anything about this side of smoking, so I after a few recommendations, I got a bag of silver OHM and gambler gold kings, this combination is close to Marlboro lights but not quite but Im happy with it so far. Anyways, to the injector, its easy Just load, tube, press the button, and packed cigarette. The only learning curve, for me as a newbie, was to dry the tobacco a little. The powermatic 3 has a couple of sheets with it, one says to put some tobacco in the fridge for 20 min. I could probably put it in there for a bit longer, also, when taking tobacco out of the bag, I noticed I should slightly pull it apart etc as I noticed if I go directly from bag to machine its too... stuck together? maybe so I try to separate and "fluff"? it. That seems to help quite a bit. I use the max setting for injecting. I tried setting 2 as some have suggested but I find it packs really nicely on setting 3. 2 just wasn't quite right to me at least. Its rather quick as well! I am at times impatient as well but this is surprisingly fast to get a couple of "packs" worth in like no time at all. Probably not much longer than going to the store and getting back home and the gas station is like a half mile from me. The machine is pretty quick. And did I mention no manual cranking? That alone was what I was looking for and this does it rather nicely! Over all so far, as someone who knows next to nothing about RYO cigarettes this has been a super easy, and gotta say fun process. This machine makes it super super easy. I would recommend this. Some have said its expensive, maybe to those already rolling their own I don't know, but coming from buying a carton at over $100 a week, this is just 2 cartons worth that I would have spent already, so it was an easy expense to justify. Im looking forward to having my cigarette cost go down dramatically. Im super satisfied thus far! If I run into anything I will update as necessary.