How tight to the ceiling can you get a kayak?

I used the hoist to hold up Costco Kayaks. I put the straps at the widest point. That will make it 22 inches. I also used the same product and didn't used the hooks provided to hold a a ladder. This makes it 12 inches from the top of the ceiling to the ladder. I was going to use kayaks in this area, but it was to close to the garage door. But when I had it on it attached, the Kayak was 16 inch gap.

Is any other products like this that is better

? This one is better than the Atwood one. I bought both. Although I prefer the rope that comes with the Atwood one, the Rad is heavier duty and better built in general.

Are the pulley wheels plastic or metal? It looks similar to a Harbor Freight bike hoist that I have. I am looking for something more heavy duty

There's nothing intrinsically wrong with the wheels being plastic. I have a block and tackle set that's made of ludicrously durable plastic and that asserts a 1800 lb. upper limit (which I entirely believe. Heck, search YouTube for "using LEGO to tear steel"). No, the question you SHOULD be asking is, "what sort of pot metal are the pins, brackets, anchors, and other fasteners made out of/rated for?" Realistically, if there are two anchor points, each should be rated for a minimum of 1000 lbs (125 limit * 2 anchors * 4 (minimum dynamic load safety margin, should one anchor catastrophically fail). If one of those goes while laden, well, ever read the Pit and the Pendulum?

Action	add
Color	black
Size	1 Pack
Style	Traditional
Height	144 inches
Weight	8 Pounds
Material Type	Alloy Steel
Number of Items	1
Number of Pieces	1
Sport	Cycling, Outdoor Lifestyle
Included Components	Canoe Hoists
Batteries Included?	No
Brand	RAD Sportz
Department	Unisex
Manufacturer	RAD Sportz
Item model number	83-DT5002
Product Dimensions	30.48 x 30.48 x 15.24 cm; 2.99 kg
ASIN	B001EUL2DO

Kayak Hoist - Overhead Pulley System for Kayak, Canoe, Bike, or Ladder Storage (125 lb Capacity)

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