Java G25 Coffee Manual Coffee Grinder, Up To 25 Gram Capacity, Stainless Steel Conical Burr, Black

Update: so after much research, I discovered the Vssl uses a very similar burr set as the timemore C2, if not exactly the same. This gave me the idea of swapping burrs. So I couldn't find anything at all online about anyone doing this with the Vssl but there was plenty of info about people swapping the C2 burrs. I couldn't foresee any reason why i couldn't do this with the Vssl, so I took a chance, ordered the 38mm S2C660 burrs directly from Timemore's AliExpress store. Thankfully, it turns out that the burrs fit the Vssl to exacting specification. As far as I know, I am now the only person with a vssl capable of doing an espresso grind. The performance is excellent; since I ordered the genuine timemore burrs, they came really sharp and appear equal if not superior to the stock burrs. Also, I noticed the grind is a bit faster now with the S2C660 burrs.If you have this grinder or are thinking about picking it up but you're put off by it's inability to grind for espresso, i can confirm that a burr swap works just fine. As for price, the Vssl at $160 plus $40 for the S2C660s puts me at $200. Would i say this upgraded grinder is worth it? Absolutely! I have not tried this mod yet but there are replacement clickplates that make the adjustments far more precise. With that mod plus the upgraded burrs, I honestly couldn't see why it'd be better to have a commandante red clix.Original Review: Full disclosure, when i was looking to purchase a handgrinder, "cool-factor" was pretty high on my list of consideration. I'd say it was maybe #3 after cost (considering a $200 budget) and grind versatility. My brew methods are Espresso and Aeropress, so i wanted something that could handle both these tasks pretty well. The Kinu was on my dream list but obviously costs too much, The M47 was top of my list but nearly double my budget. The commandante was second but also too expensing and nearly impossible to get in South Africa at the moment.Turning to the Chinese offerings, I found Timemore somewhat attractive but i was put off my the plastic parts in the C2. The C3 looked sleek but i think the Vssl looked better. When i discovered the Vssl was a Canadian design, i decided to go with it over the C3. Despite apparently great reviews, the 1Zpresso offerings didn't much appeal to me.After unboxing the Vssl, the premium feel was immediately noticeable. Coming from a relatively inexpensive Caffelano ceramic grinder, the buttery smoothness of the ball bearings and the burr alignment, and the durability of the crank mechanism immediately caught my notice.On my very first grind, using about 4.5 clicks in the first rotation, I ground to a medium coarse and brewed a nearly perfect aeropress, perhaps the best I had ever made up to that point. However, the limitations of the Vssl began to show when I attempted to use the lowest setting, .5 on the first rotation, to brew an espresso.Looking at the burrs, they seemed to have the tiniest micron-widthed gap but it was nonetheless visible. Proceeding to grind, I could tell that while the grind size was very nicely uniformed, it was very slightly too coarse for my typical 18g espresso pull..I proceeded with my attempt anyway, and sure enough the shot ran straight though like taco truck tuesdays. I will say, increasing the dose to 19g did improve the shot quality slightly but it is still coarser than i typically like. I did a bit of research and discovered the Vssl uses the same burrset as the timemore C2, with the latter apparently having the same problems for espresso brewing. This gives me a bit of hope because the C2 has a good community behind it and much reference on how to swap burrs to improve the grinder's overall espresso grinding capability.My hope is if the Vssl and C2 burrs are indeed the exact same size and shape, then I should be able to swap the Vssl burrs out for the Timemore E&Bs or Esp burrs. If I am successful in this, i will update this post; being able to easily grind for expresso with the Vssl will change my coffee game. But for now, I will stick to giving it ⭐⭐⭐⭐/5.If you don't care about grinding for espresso; if you're more of an aeropress or pour-over person in the market for a handgrinder, the Vssl definitely hits the sweet spot between quality and cost, being more premium than most of Timemore and 1Zpresso's offerings but less expensive than the Commandante or Kinu offerings. I would highly recommend it. If espresso is more your thing, this is still an ok option but just note that using the Vssl unmodified, you will have to make some adjustments to my brew methods.

I’ve been using a ceramic burr grinder for probably 15 years. Too cheap to anything else. I got this one on sale. It’s been excellent. Grind so much faster than the ceramic burr. Only drawback is the static electricity that causes the Ground coffee to stick to the grinder and the cup. Can’t remember where I caught this trick, but you add just three or four drops of water to the beans before grinding and the grounds will not stick to the grinder as before. Good luck. Love this grinder.

You get what you pay for, I originally bought a GCI Outdoor Javamill, which is primarily plastic, it ground coffee but was very clunky. The VSSL JAVA Manual Hand Coffee Grinder is a better quality machine that does the job smoothly and quickly, I’d also argue that it is slightly quieter as well.The consistency of the coffee grounds was great, and the coffee had a rich taste as it should given it was freshly ground. My only gripe is that it is on the heavier side for a grinder. All-in-all I would rate the grinder a 9out of 10. VSSL did a great job on the design making it compact to carry, and because of the quality material I can see this lasting a longtime, potentially a hand me down for one of my children someday.

This is sturdy and rugged. Travels easy. I pack in a bag with my aeropress and Jetboil so it is all together handy. The grind setting works well and allows me to get the grind I want.

All pieces have great manufacturing, is very pleasant to screw/unscrew the coffee catcher, aswell as sping the top handle to grind coffee,Only "issue" i found was that on the first use the bearings were so smooth that you could grab the bottom end and unscrew it by spinning the main body and the top handle will not move because of the smoothness of the bearings, really loved that but is something i could not get again, not an issue really, just a very enjoyable feeling.There is that and to assemble back the top cap you have to kind of align the hexagonal shape of the cap with the one on the body to get it to click, not really inconvenient, that's as bad as i can say about it.Previous to this one I was using a Java press grinder, with this thing i can grind the same 15g of coffee in a third of the time with a much uniform grind size, you need a little attention while brushing it to clean it.It is a small grinder, I'll say they are very precise with the 20g capacity.As i see it, i don't think to need a replacement for this grinder ever again

EDIT: I was able to get ahold of the guys at VSSL at some point and they were able to send me a replacement cap, the gentleman that I had a conversation with said it was the only time he had heard of this happening which is understandable since I don't imagine rivets break too often, it's nice to have a good coffee grinder again, Updated my stars to reflect product in complete form in working condition.I used this coffee grinder for about 2 months when I was travelling around before the handle broke. Now it's very challenging to grind anything and it doesn't store nearly as well as it did before so I just stopped using it.This is very obviously not worth the price if it breaks so quickly from normal use.For travelling it will not last long and is kind of heavy, I thought the weight of the product would lend to its durability but that is not the case.It was easy to use and nice while it lasted, I liked the adjustable grind settings and the overall look of the design.

First off, I love this thing. It feels great to hold, feels very solid and durable while also being relatively light-weight. It grinds smoothly and easily. There's a LOT of adjustability with the grind size, I don't know how fine or coarse it can go, but it is very adjustable. I wish it had a bigger capacity, it can barely hold 20g of beans. And you have to kind of force it closed with that.I feel it's only downside is the price. I don't know how I talked myself into buying this thing, but overall I love it.

it's the best. !

Wow excellent product, really well made cute so cute. Comes with little cover once out of box, so many different functions. And settings. You know what they say quality and you get what you pay for. And this is high quality. Highly recommend.. definitely love this item

Buy it, you won’t be disappointed

I’m happy about grinder, good quality

Ok but could grimd a little finer…